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Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:41:00 - [1] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: theforce that link has been removed several times from this forum roxanna In fact it's been removed almost as many times as your posts will be captain NPC corp. that why i didnt wanna post it at startt, besides why the forums are being so regulated, that just lame from CCP, treating every one like childrens. you cant do this you cant post that. Yeah, really lame that you can't post someone's recorded voice without their permission. Oh, no, wait... in the EU, thats the LAW. Tards.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:45:00 - [2] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Butter Dog Oh, no, wait... in the EU, thats the LAW. Just for ****s and giggles: NO IT IS NOT. kthx. Yes, it is.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:55:00 - [3] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Butter Dog Oh, no, wait... in the EU, thats the LAW. Just for ****s and giggles: NO IT IS NOT. kthx. Yes, it is. Funny that our solicitors say it isn't and every single person that has threatened us with legal action has pussied out then, hey? Its not funny, its just that most people havent got the time or energy to persue legal proceedings, and you know it. Its also not funny that you do such things in the first place. You are morally corrupt and have no respect for other people who play this game. Grow up.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 17:19:00 - [4] Only 9 straight BoB replies in a row to my little 'spat'... you're slacking
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 18:40:00 - [5] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Butter Dog Its not funny, its just that most people havent got the time or energy to persue legal proceedings, and you know it. Its also not funny that you do such things in the first place. You are morally corrupt and have no respect for other people who play this game. Grow up. * cough * Originally by: UK Copyright Act Criticism, review and news reporting. 30.ù(1) Fair dealing with a work for the purpose of criticism or review, of that or another work or of a performance of a work, does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement. (2) Fair dealing with a work (other than a photograph) for the purpose of reporting current events does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that (subject to subsection (3)) it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement. (3) No acknowledgement is required in connection with the reporting of current events by means of a sound recording, film, broadcast or cable programme. Under section 9 of the same act, unknown authors are those who can not be easily identified (in real life), and do not need to be credited (because you can't credit work if you don't know who made it). No matter how much you want this to be illegal, it isn't. Sorry. Just...lol... you are quoting the UK Copyright Act. This has nothing to do with copyright. The Copyright Act you are referring to, and specifically the section you have quoted, deals with the review or criticism of copyrighted work, which is INTENTIONALLY in the public domain. What you have done, it accessed a private voice server, neither copyright protected NOR intended to be in the public domian, and recorded it without permission to do so. Not only this, but you then made it publically available by hosting it on your site. If you're going to try and quote the law, please... have the FIRST CLUE about what you are quoting, because frankly you have just embarassed yourself and your alliance.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 18:52:00 - [6] Secure voice servers are not classed as cable broadcast services. Sorry if that inconveniences your case. And none of this psuedo-legal talk hides the fact your out-of-game actions are morally reprehensible. Still, if you must sc*****the barrel, go right ahead... does wonders for your PR.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 19:01:00 - [7] You talk about morality then quote a law? Laughable.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 19:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Butter Dog You talk about morality then quote a law? Laughable. Really? What do you think the law is based on, imorality? Morality is driven by consience, not legal statutes. The fact you can get away with something because of a (highly debatable) legal loophole regarding secure voice servers, does not make your actions right or justifiable. Any grown adult can see this. So carry on, dredge the bottom of the barrel, make excuses... the rest of the EVE community look on, and thank our lucky stars we are not part of a group of people who blur the boundaries between gaming and reality to such an unhealthy degree.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 19:07:00 - [9] Originally by: DB Preacher I don't think I've ever seen anyone get owned so hard on the forums since that ER dude flamed us then posted with his main. Sheer poetry in work here chaps. dbp That post contributed presicely nothing to the debate. Do you actually have anything to add, or are low level flames the purpose of your contribution here?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 19:10:00 - [10] Originally by: DB Preacher awwww, did poor avon own you and you are now turning on me with some lame attempt to derail your owning? Please by all means continue, it's hilarious. dbp Actually, you are the one who waded into our perfectly reasoned debate with some low level flaming. Pot.. kettle..
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 19:13:00 - [11] Originally by: DB Preacher p.s. We don't need you to judge our morality nor care whether you do but it's still hilarious owning your poor legal arguments. dbp Actually you have not, in the slightest. Its pure debate, no facts have been established. Secure voice servers may or may not be classifed under various statutes... however as this is pretty much untested in court, its just my point of view against his. One could argue with equal force that secure voice servers are NOT covered by Copyright laws. Indeed from the legal perspective this would make more sense.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 19:14:00 - [12] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Butter Dog The fact you can get away with something because of a (highly debatable) legal loophole regarding secure voice servers, does not make your actions right or justifiable. It isn't a loophole, and it isn't "highly debatable". What you are asking for is censorship. You are saying it is unfair to show someone in a bad light by simply making their public broadcast more public. Censorship is lying by ommission, and lying is immoral, non? Only you CANNOT class it as a public broadcast. Your interpretation of the law is pure comedy.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 19:18:00 - [13] Originally by: jellybird OMG Are u still talking, there is something called "Real Life" just a few steps away, get a grip pal. Thanks for this valuable contribution. PS - I play eve for less than a few hours a week atm... if anyone needs to get a life around here, its not me
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:47:00 - [14] Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: VonKaplanek III Originally by: Blacklight At any time between now and when the penny drops please feel free to realise that we don't care what you think. Quit being so arrogant dude, its getting old. If you really didnt care what other people think you wouldn't make hundreds of BoB posts every day in public forums. You still dont have a clue about many things...and i doubt you will ever have This post is the perfect example of why people dislike BoB's forum attitude. Thank you for making my points about your alliance crystal clear to all, with just one post. Well done.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:49:00 - [15] Originally by: Whoturned Outthelights Originally by: HordeZla Originally by: zyphen**** Is it me or perhaps both sides are experience more loses then what they had hoped? But hey, it's war... Your right, so right. It's just you! I know for a fact that one side is very happy with there low losses. Guess it helps if your board conveniently ignores the 134 losses Constructive Influence have racked up eh? Havent you heard? A PvP alliance getting a better kill/loss ratio than an industrial alliance is a stunning achievement. This proves once and for all that BoB are better PvPers than anyone else in EVE. How could we ever doubt them?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:58:00 - [16] Originally by: Vince Draken Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: VonKaplanek III Originally by: Blacklight At any time between now and when the penny drops please feel free to realise that we don't care what you think. Quit being so arrogant dude, its getting old. If you really didnt care what other people think you wouldn't make hundreds of BoB posts every day in public forums. You still dont have a clue about many things...and i doubt you will ever have This post is the perfect example of why people dislike BoB's forum attitude. Thank you for making my points about your alliance crystal clear to all, with just one post. Well done. Haven't you figured out we don't care? We espicially don't care what you think. lol... 'I don't care, but I'm going to post on public forums in increasingly desperate attempts to stroke my epeen, and if anyone doesnt stroke my epeen too, all my alliance friends will flame them into submission with pointless one-liners'. Yeah, you're all doing a really good impression of someone who 'doesnt care'. Do keep it up
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Louisa Torres Ask the old residents of paragon soul just how "industrial" ASCN are. There is no such thing, I'm afraid - in fact I'd be willing to put our own industrial output up against ASCN any day of the week. Now you're just talking pure unadulterated BS. ASCN is a diverse alliance with some PvP elements, however everyone reading this forum (including you) knows they are predominantly industrial in nature, unlike your alliance. So fine, if you want a fair comparison, bring all your industrial alt corps into the BoB alliance and then see how your kill/loss starts to look.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:44:00 - [18] Sorry, are BoB members actually trying to argue that they are an Industrial alliance, and that ASCN is a PvP one? This is getting really funny If you want to brag about kill/loss, go on the warpath with D2 or AAA. Then, you would have a good reason to brag. As it is, you don't. It another Goon/Huzzah/Aridia locals type ego-boosting slaughter. If you want a well done, you've come to the wrong place. No-one outside your own alliance is impressed this time.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:17:00 - [19] I understand perfectly well that you have a well developed industrial side to your alliance. That is pretty common knowledge. However, what is it you are claiming here? Are you a PvP alliance by nature or not? How would you class ASCN? You see, its really quite simple. You go after a fat, mainly industrial target where good kill/loss ratios are virtually guarenteed. You then boast about kill/loss ratios LIKE ITS A SUPRISE. This is the result everyone, even ASCN, expected. So to claim otherwise is laughable.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:22:00 - [20] Originally by: Hackett /me imagines Butter Dog sitting at his keyboard with his face purple, fists shaking in impotent rage.... Hehe. Well, I enjoy the forum, and I love the fact BoB are so easy to wind up. Do I like ASCN? Not really. They need someone to shake them up. But my God, I prefer them to you guys. You are so smacktardy and disrespectful to others, I really fail to see why you bother posting on a public forum if you cannot take a bit of constructive criticism from outside observers. If you don't want people who are not involved to comment, keep your circle-jerks on your private forum.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Louisa Torres We are not a PvP alliance. We are not an industrial alliance. We are BoB. There is no part of this game we do not play. This is the sort of meaningless BoB post which makes me smile. Yeah, because no other alliance in EVE PvPs and has an industrial backbone
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:26:00 - [22] Originally by: Louisa Torres there is only one person here spending more time spewing garbage on the forums, and as is quite obvious - that isn't us. I spend about 1 hour a day browsing the forums. Can't say the same for some members of your alliance.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 12:31:00 - [23] Edited by: Butter Dog on 14/10/2006 12:32:16 Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 14/10/2006 11:33:05 Butter Dog, you really need to chill out a little and stop trying to execute a rather poor point scoring exercise. Let's just sum it up right here. BoB > You You = Bitter There. Now, if you would like to disprove that, you can do it in one of two ways. Either: a/ Defeat BoB or b/ Stop posting. Until you actually manage to do something in game to give you an ounce of credibility, you will have to expect that people may not give your words the weight you feel they deserve. I know that is frustrating for you, but ultimately here, in this part of the forums, you are a nobody. Harsh, but true. Anyway, thanks for your interest in our alliance, and spending so much of your valuable time expressing that interest. When you have something valuable, insightful, or factual to say, please hurry back. I'm not quite sure I understand the point of this post. Did I, at any point, claim that I, in a three man alt corp, am somehow superior to your alliance? I think not. If it makes you feel better to hear it: Yes, you are collectively far stronger, richer, better at PvP than I on my own will ever be. Happy now I've stroked your epeen? But that isnt the point of my posts, nor the reason I dislike elements of your alliance. The reason is simple: Your attitude. You post in a public forum, then mass flame anyone outside your alliance who dares to so much pass comment. You guys really need to get over yourselves. You are nothing special. I'm sure having me interject your public circle-jerks and smackfests with a dose of reality is annoying. The amount of flames directed at me is surely proof of this, you claim not to care what I or anyone else thinks... then why invest so much time flaming me and anyone else who so much as dares to 'break the circle'? You're not the best. You never will be. And thats the truth you guys can't get over. PS - and yes, mr epeen, I'm not the best either... nor have I ever claimed to be, and nor will I ever be
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 12:52:00 - [24] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Butter Dog You're not the best. You never will be. And thats the truth you guys can't get over. Actually, we are. In EvE, anyway. And until someone better comes along (hopefully it will happen eventually) we shall continue to act as our position allows. We don't do it in RL, thank god for the inet, hey? It pretty easy to argue that D2 are better than you are right now. Industrial backbone, kill/loss, respectful yet focused leadership... by whatever measure you use, D2 come out on top... though of course its all a matter of subjective opinion.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 13:13:00 - [25] Originally by: BadManEdmundo Originally by: Butter Dog It pretty easy to argue that D2 are better than you are right now. Industrial backbone, kill/loss, respectful yet focused leadership... by whatever measure you use, D2 come out on top... though of course its all a matter of subjective opinion. Are you going to explain point for point how they are better then us in the statement you just made? If you like, sure. 1) In absorbing TRUST they massively strengthened their industrial and T2 backbone 2) Their PvP corporations have a kill/loss ratios against you which is nothing short of very impressive 3) They are generally respectful in their forum conduct and in interaction with those outside their alliance 4) Their leadership is widely recognised as some of the strongest in-game It is of course true, as has been pointed out, that D2 have not enjoyed a roadtrip into your space as yet. Though the last time you did that to them, you left having lost more than you killed. Yes, I know it was a 'roadtrip' and you never intended to stay. But you only went up their because they were playing with ASCN. When they came back, you ran home. Now, I'm not saying for definate that D2 ARE the best. Not at all. I'm just saying that its possible to argue that they are better than you, and to do so fairly convincingly.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 13:15:00 - [26] Originally by: Coranor I'll put nova's industrial output up against D2 anytime and we'd probably win. As for leadership, being respectful gains you nothing in war in this game so yeah they can be respectful all they like, whatever. Kill loss ratios? Now you could just go check the respective killboards but i don't think you would as it would destroy your arguement here. Sorry man your opinions don't count for ****. I gotta congratulate you though. I've not even seen dian spam as many stupid posts on this forum in the space of one hour. Well done mate there's some people from the guinness book of records over here to chat to you. Well, you can always refer to your own killboard for evidence of how effective their PvP corporations are against your alliance. No need for me to collect the data for you.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 19:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Cyleth And how much you know about BoB's industrial backbone? Obviously nothing. Be quiet. A lot more than you clearly realise ;) btw, to the stereotypical BoB guy who came in and posted 'you and your corp mean nothing' etc... well, I've been saying that myself all along. Or did you expect a three man alt corp to claim one of the regions, perhaps?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 19:43:00 - [28] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh However, BoB engages in PvP, PvE, production, research, exploration and plays the markets via trade. Thats nothing special, you know. Name one major alliance who doesn't do all those things.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.15 10:22:00 - [29] Edited by: Butter Dog on 15/10/2006 10:23:07 Originally by: Audrea Edited by: Audrea on 14/10/2006 20:38:34 Originally by: Bitter Dog If you want to brag about kill/loss, go on the warpath with D2 or AAA. Then, you would have a good reason to brag. As it is, you don't. It another Goon/Huzzah/Aridia locals type ego-boosting slaughter. If you want a well done, you've come to the wrong place. No-one outside your own alliance is impressed this time. lol your posts are mostly funny and amusing, but this one is blatant lies and trying to twist facts to fit into your 'theories'. BoB engaged all the above entities in one of their life spans: D2 as G Alliance, AAA as Stain- Alliance (EDIT: Admittedly its not exactly same alliance, but pvp abilites are similiar I would think). Huzzah Federation?? lol, Why are you trying to berate that alliance and claim it was poor industrial alliance too?!? Who the hell are you? Were you there when we fought BoB? -nope, go back to your hole. I am sure that if you ask the rest of BoB, they will tell you that we fought very well, not like 'industrial alliance' Huzzah Federation had a better kill/death ratio than ASCN has now, I believe (certainly not 70/1 BS looses) And all the crap you say about pvp alliance.. just lol. I remember in last months how many times ASCN was mentioned among the big alliances, they sure enjoyed being mentioned on that list. Now they are just poor pityful industrial alliance, when time comes to stand up to that 'reputation' they enjoyed so much? You also say you spend barly hour on the forums, what a blatant lie, which can easily be exposed. The following is the statistics of posting habits for Bitter Dog, taken from Eve-Search.com (relevant excerpts): Posts: 1812 Average: 4,6 posts/day Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions 16,50% (299 posts) <- No worries, it will be the first in list long before you die. You are so bitter, dog - that I wouldnt even pity you as much as I would give home to any real dog. I wonder why you are so bitter And no, the community laughs AT you, not WITH you, doggie. I would hope you can learn that, but usually dogs cant be tought new tricks once they pass certain age. You seems to have passed it.. unfortunately for you An average of 4.6 posts a day? That would seem to back up what I said, would it not? Or do you suppose I take an hour to write each post? Look, I know you were in Huzzah and are naturally defensive. But you guys were a mainly inexperienced PvP force with a lot of low-SP and new members. Thats a plain, simple, honest fact. Denying it and claiming you were uber PvPers who stood your own with BoB is pure comedy.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.15 10:55:00 - [30] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Butter Dog But you guys were a mainly inexperienced PvP force with a lot of low-SP and new members. Pot .. kettle? Did I at any point claim anything but? Have I made any claims to greatness? No. Thank you. I was simply pointing out a few facts.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.15 10:56:00 - [31] Originally by: BadManEdmundo Originally by: Butter Dog ... My post #237 needs responding to, will you please? I've been looking forward to it all night. Oh that was the D2 one, yes? Well, if you cannot see why they are your PvP equals you are frankly beyond my help.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.15 10:59:00 - [32] Originally by: TWD Butter dog, your obsession with BoB is saddening. 5bn and I never post in your threads again
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:58:00 - [33] Originally by: Tzrailasa You're also assuming here that only ASCN looses ships to node crashes, which is not a valid assumption. The ratio generally would not change since both sides would be affected equally. As you guys were picking them off one-by-one after the node crashes, I think you will find the ratio will change significantly. I agree they were silly to log back in one at a time in disorganized fashion, but if what he said is true, thats a LOT of battleships they just got back.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:59:00 - [34] Originally by: DB Preacher Yesterday we broke our kills/loss record (unless there is a late BS loss to be posted). 50 BS killed, 0 BS lost. I guess after the 78-1 this was always going to happen. It will be interesting to see if ASCN keep ****ing ships up our killboard. dbp Oh, hats off. That is quite superb. wtf are ASCN playing at? I think their FC's need a long holiday.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:07:00 - [35] Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Tzrailasa You're also assuming here that only ASCN looses ships to node crashes, which is not a valid assumption. The ratio generally would not change since both sides would be affected equally. As you guys were picking them off one-by-one after the node crashes, I think you will find the ratio will change significantly. I agree they were silly to log back in one at a time in disorganized fashion, but if what he said is true, thats a LOT of battleships they just got back. There was no lag in past week. Learn to read. Lukec, I said 'after the node crashes', didn't I? Which would imply the node crashes you had over a week ago, after which ASCN lost about 200 BS in total. Its those ships I was referring to. Obviously if you have had no node crashes in the past week, I could not be reffering to any events in the past 7 days, could I.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:18:00 - [36] Originally by: Joe Bloggers would that open up the entire bob region to a fleet on demand? In theory, but what use is a fleet if you're just going to suicide it?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:33:00 - [37] Originally by: Jiara Castoumi Err has anyone actually looked at the map recently? No didnt think so :/ TCAG-3 Sovrienty Taken today 11:16 BST So considering everyones crying over sovriegnty, you can all stop :/ Yeah, everyone knows. Claiming sov in an empty system requires a control tower to be fuelled and anchored. Nothing more. If you formed an alliance, and placed a couple of large POS there, you could claim sov yourself. What does it mean? A fuel saving. Nothing more. Now, if sov changes on outpost systems... thats a different kettle of fish.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:46:00 - [38] Originally by: TURBOman Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Jiara Castoumi Err has anyone actually looked at the map recently? No didnt think so :/ TCAG-3 Sovrienty Taken today 11:16 BST So considering everyones crying over sovriegnty, you can all stop :/ Yeah, everyone knows. Claiming sov in an empty system requires a control tower to be fuelled and anchored. Nothing more. If you formed an alliance, and placed a couple of large POS there, you could claim sov yourself. What does it mean? A fuel saving. Nothing more. Now, if sov changes on outpost systems... thats a different kettle of fish. Tell us butter... What exactley makes you qualified to talk about these things? Where were you even remotley close to the things you are talking about with such confidence? I didnt think I was stating anything particularly controversial. Simply talked about game mechanics. If there are any factual inaccuracies, please do correct me.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:49:00 - [39] Originally by: TURBOman Ok, so by your theory, ASCN lost sov because of them being unable to fuel their pos, and anyone that shows enough dedication to fuel their pos can hold sov in bob region? Even with bob capital and bs fleet right next door? Think about what u're saying... Now you're just flaming for the sake of it. I didnt say any such things.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:57:00 - [40] Originally by: Sir JoJo Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: TURBOman Ok, so by your theory, ASCN lost sov because of them being unable to fuel their pos, and anyone that shows enough dedication to fuel their pos can hold sov in bob region? Even with bob capital and bs fleet right next door? Think about what u're saying... Now you're just flaming for the sake of it. I didnt say any such things. no u just in genral talk utter crap. wonder when ull stop u fanboi thing and move on. Okay, so I explain why sov changes in empty systems from a game mechanic perspective are relatively unimportant (to a third party), and this makes me a fanboi who is talking utter crap? lol, okay Mr Troll, whatever you say. Same tired old line from the same tired old people. Your forum warriors are really no match for even a barely reasoned arguement. Oh no, wait, 9 more of you will jump on the thread now calling me a 'fanboi' (whatever that is). I better go and weep quietly in the corner.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:48:00 - [41] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Evolution pilots will cease feeding the troll. You really need to look up the definition of a troll, then read back 20 posts or so. I made a perfectly reasoned reply to a point about sov. Your alliance members then decided to troll. Fact.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:34:00 - [42] Originally by: Scrofalitic One Originally by: Roxanna Kell Jees Rikeka you actually Believe that posting on FORUMS is a form of WAR? Reading comprehension not your strong point at school? Rikeka's post made me chuckle anyway, made a nice change from the Butter Dog fool and his twenty odd BoB stalkers flaming each other. really made me laugh :)
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:58:00 - [43] Originally by: Rikeka And Butter, you know you will be gangbanged to death in the followings secs, right? I am moist with anticipation.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:28:00 - [44] Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius 3. ButterDog trying to actually argue using logic and sense... failed. Somebody should have told him that this is not that kind discusion. (btw he is a quite good FC... maybe ASCN should hire him) I will not stand for these slanderous lies. BoB said I suck and lose at EVE, they are never wrong.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:32:00 - [45] Originally by: Reite Hahahaha come on. There is no logic nor sense in any of your posts. Is this atreus guy ur alt? He has to be very badly biased to actually be fooled by the so called arguments you puke out. Please point me to a single post of mine, in which I am constructing an arguement, which has no logic or sense. Go on, I'm waiting...
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 21:13:00 - [46] Originally by: Reite Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Reite Hahahaha come on. There is no logic nor sense in any of your posts. Is this atreus guy ur alt? He has to be very badly biased to actually be fooled by the so called arguments you puke out. Please point me to a single post of mine, in which I am constructing an arguement, which has no logic or sense. Go on, I'm waiting... Quote: Well, if you cannot see why they(D2) are your PvP equals you are frankly beyond my help. Where is the logic? This argument is void. Quote: Something about you "knowing" more about bobs industrial side than we know I cant find this post, which is really a pity since it was so good Quote: blablabla LAW bull**** come on! You wrote so many posts about the law being against what BOB do. And you failed to NOT EVEN ONCE quote some law to back up your case. Okay, so you can't find one, thank you for proving my point. Regarding the D2 point, if you are suggesting that some of the old G corps are NOT your PvP equals, please explain why. I'm sure they are as interested to know as you, considering their kill/loss against you. As for your industrial side, I have never really commented on it. I know you have a strong industrial backbone.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 21:16:00 - [47] Originally by: Ab Initio Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Reite Hahahaha come on. There is no logic nor sense in any of your posts. Is this atreus guy ur alt? He has to be very badly biased to actually be fooled by the so called arguments you puke out. Please point me to a single post of mine, in which I am constructing an arguement, which has no logic or sense. Go on, I'm waiting... The posts comparing corp to alliance stats is probably a good place to start. There was at least 4 well written explanations of why they make no sense, and yet you posted the same argument a number of days later. In regards to the definition of a "troll", I generally base it on whether a person is as willing to respond to the well written responses as the smack. I've seen you constantly ignore almost every serious post, while chomping at the bit to reply to any you feel you can score points off. Continue to avoid engaging in any serious discussion, and you will continue to be seen in the same light you are now. The comparison I was making on the kill/loss ratio was the old G corps against you. Unfortunately you cannot search against G Alliance on your killboard anymore, or at least I couldn't, so I had to make do with the stats at hand. I understand that comparing corp to alliance isnt really 'fair' but as G alliance had about as many member corps as you it was not a totally unfair comparison.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 21:18:00 - [48] Originally by: Reite Ahh im not gonna go into a argument like this with u. Avon did it beforem he basicly said "its not against the law, heres prood" Your replied with "yes it is, with NO PROOF OR ANYTHING AT ALL" Its so pointless to discuss with you cause it always end up with. yes no yes no. Well you're entitled to your point of view, of course. Though I can quite clearly state that I have never really said anything about your industrial side other than 'you have a strong one'. Regarding my discussion with Avon, it was my opinion against his. There was no proof on either side. The discussion was fairly pointless I guess, but well... thats what forums are for after all. Wasting time
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 21:32:00 - [49] Originally by: Avon I counter you with an accusation of sophism. An expected accusation, considering I tend to argue with BoB members. I'm not actually pro-ASCN, believe it or not, they just rise less to the bait than you guys. You are both highly defensive and aggressive on the forums, its not a pleasant combination. But nonetheless, its quite fun provided one doesnt take it too seriously.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 21:37:00 - [50] Originally by: Avon Sounds like an admission of trolling to me. Not really, I don't post to incite flames. Its just very hard to avoid that with you guys. You are tuned to react to anything you percieve as criticism - be it explicit or implied.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 22:02:00 - [51] Originally by: Avon That's a rather sweeping generalisation. It is a generalisation, yes. Its one thats proved right time and time again though Or are you suggesting that BoB's forum warriors don't swarm anyone they percieve to be critical? Because I think we all know that would be a little porkie pie.

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